my mother started coming for meditation session
she would start asking me to go to the center
and the more she asked me to go the more
i moved away
because no one can force me into doing
anything that typical
so i said i'm not interested i don't need it
life is perfect for me academically
personally socially everything was
perfect so why do i need to do
meditation
because meditation is not the way it is
today
more accepted it was more one of the
things
few people do who had problems in their
life is what i believed
and i didn't have a problem in my life
so i didn't find the need to go to the
center but every week she said every
thursday every sunday she would make an
effort
and every morning on sunday i already
had my excuse ready why
i didn't want to go today either it
would be homework either it would be my
headache my stomach
everything i did everything possible not
to come here
i tried very hard to move away from
not coming here and then i didn't know
why
i just saw a lot of change in her
actually
a lot of transformation from being um
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a typical mother who gets worried for
children
anxiety if they are late in that era of
without
phones and very anxious if the child is
going through something
and i suddenly within a year or so i saw
i found her very strong
very powerful even stronger than
everybody else in the house
and i knew she was getting something
which was
right and then i said okay now i want to
do this
course when she stopped asking me to do
it then i said i want to now do this
meditation course
and then when i came to the center and
like all of you were told in this one
week
that god is teaching us here
and the sister who gave me the course
she said
god is directly giving this knowledge
and i just stared at her and i said you
mean to say
specifically here like this she said yes
i walked away i said i'm not coming back
to this place they say very strange
things over here
and in fact i went back and i told my
father not to send my mother here
because it's not a right place
so she said i said how can you talk like
this
god is for everybody you can't say he
teaches here it's not done like this
after six months i again went back and i
said
you prove it to me then i will
understand
she said it can't be proved i said then
i cannot understand
she said you first accept it and start
experimenting with it
i said how can i experiment if i don't
believe that it's there
so we were in this dilemma whether to
first experiment or whether to first
have it proved what to do
and then i remembered that as a science
student
in maths we were taught that to begin
with the belief suppose a is equal to b
you write that first line suppose a is
equal to b
and then you go on proving it and in the
end you will again come back to
yes a is equal to b so i had to put the
first line as
suppose god is giving this knowledge
now what do i have to do so she said
okay meditation every day
and moodly class every morning
high vegetarian lifestyle i said i'll do
only for three months
can't do live this kind of a lifestyle
forever she said only three months
and then i really did that three months
sincerely did it every single day three
months
because god cannot be seen cannot be
proved
soul cannot be seen cannot be proved
because anything that is not visible
cannot be seen
cannot be proved but it can be
experienced
so then began a journey of studying and
meditating
and it did not take three months
actually it was much sooner than that
that i could experience a very personal
relationship of love
and power from god and also a self
change
self transformation so within i think
two months or so i said
a is equal to b this is the place and i
started the journey
and then it was a daily daily moodly
class daily meditation
then about 10 years
or 8 years later i was going to the
studio
and one day i was asked to sit on the
chair to do the program
and i was very resistant because i don't
find myself eligible for that
and i said i don't know anything what
has to be done in this program i don't
know what to share i don't know what to
speak
they say no you just sit just sit and
surrender
so it was a very beautiful experience
that
just like these two chairs and
i sat here the sister who was invited to
do the interview she came up to me and
she said what am i supposed to ask
i said don't scare me anymore i have no
idea
just sit i have been told just sit and
it will happen so you also just sit and
it will happen
and um but that personal relationship
with god
and i just said baba i know nothing
whatever happens now nobody knows
me so it's not going to i'm not going to
get insulted in front of the world it's
you
so it's about you so you take care what
has to happen
and it was a amazing experience
30 minutes just flowed and she was
asking
and i was answering and she was asking
and i was answering and when i was
answering i was learning
so i was answering but i didn't know
those answers
so while it was happening i was learning
and that day in one day
we recorded eight episodes and we didn't
know from where the content flowed
and after it was aired on television it
got a good response
i couldn't explain to people around me
my experience of that day that this is
not
me i didn't know any of this and
everybody said oh good response so let's
record again
and i said no this doesn't magic doesn't
happen every time
you know it's so it's a special
experience it can't repeat as if it's
the done thing
they said no it'll happen again i said
no it won't happen again
again resistance then again we did it
and again the same experience then the
third time we thought
this is taking things too much for
granted so we should prepare something
so the third time i prepared
questions answers content material
topic prepared everything and then when
we sat on the chair
none of that came out in our
conversations so we said okay
this is not our program and now it's
been 12 years
and even now every time i sit on that
chair to do that program
i still have that little little thought
doubt fear that baba please take over
we know nothing that's going to happen
and
it's been a journey of that experience
but in those 12 years
i've got to learn a lot so i learned a
lot so there's no practice in this
there's no preparation there's nothing
that i've done for it
it's just been baba using for his work
he uses all of us each one of us is his
instrument
and each one of us is playing different
roles and if you talk to all the sisters
and brothers
in this campus or when you go down to
abu road
you will get similar experiences from
everybody because
all of us are doing things which we
didn't know
we didn't know how to do but just
surrender and say
use me and each one of us being is used
in different different ways but all of
us suggest instruments
and god is using us for this saver so i
really don't know about the clarity and
the simplicity
but simplicity is only because i
understand it only that way i wouldn't
understand it in a more profound way so
just that but no preparation or strategy
for that
so you're saying if any of us came up
here and sat
and said okay baba that out of our mouth
would come that brilliant simplicity and
clarity
what part of it is yours nobody
is no part what part in your spiritual
journey can you claim
to be part of that saver the only thing
part i can say is i would sit with a
silent
intellect not to use
my own intellect not plan not prepare
just sit silent and say use
so that much but is mine were you
complicated before
i don't remember too much what i was
like before actually
okay i try very hard to think what all i
have changed but i've forgotten that
part of my life so glad
yeah that's good yeah but i think i was
quite complicated definitely
and there's still more to sort out yes
yeah there's no point
out it's a journey and like sister was
saying i've all your questions been
answered
don't expect questions to be answered in
one week
this is the beginning of questions
starting now because it's an area of our
life
which we hadn't even ever looked at so
questions
actually begin now not finish it's a
study it's a journey with
questions and answers but a beautiful
relationship
and it is true on the learning journey
if you're not asking
questions you're not learning anymore
but it's is the quality of question
in some ways am i looking to deepen and
understand and have an experience
um it brings me to some of the
conversation has been
i think we all know having seen you
twice
and maybe watched youtube clips i'm not
sure
but always your message will come back
to
personal accountability they're doing
this they're doing that no matter how
intense the description of that
situation
is you will always bring it back
to the personal it's like the
fundamental principle
of raj yoga which you always speak of
and some of it has been around tell
yourself i am a peaceful soul
i am a powerful soul what advice or what
insight can you offer for those who say
those words
you know i am a peaceful soul i am a
powerful soul
but it becomes like a mantra it becomes
like an
affirmation and it doesn't quite stick
how do you make it stick
even if it becomes an affirmation an
affirmation will become a reality
it will become a reality and when we
come
first day to learn raj yoga we come with
all our
flaws our impurities and the first day
baba says
i am a peaceful soul and there is no
peace here
you say i am a peaceful soul when we go
out in the world today people are saying
i am stressed
it's a very common line i am stressed
some people today are saying i'm
depressed
now when we keep doing this affirmation
i am stressed i'm stressed i am stressed
you are stressed we are stressed
everyone is stressed
so when we keep repeating this
affirmation the stress
levels in the world have gone much
higher because we kept
re repeating this affirmation then some
of us started saying i'm depressed
somebody opens the window and says the
weather is so depressing today every
word
is radiating energy and it's influencing
reality to begin with just
take this life i am a peaceful soul
i am a powerful soul i am a loveful soul
and most important i am connected to the
powerhouse
the ocean of peace and love morning
is for contemplation on these lines and
affirmation
and during the day just a little
attention
that little attention during the day is
needed
because in the morning when we meditate
it's like charging the phone
but we need to take care during the day
that we keep charging it a little more
we don't keep
depleting it with wrong karma the most
important thing
why personal responsibility because look
at
any situation in your life look at
absolutely
any situation i'll share one experience
of
a sister who came from the u.s just a
couple of months
and she shared her experience with me
and she said
three years back i just switched on the
television and this program happened to
be
on air but the episode was about what
if a family member dies how to handle
that situation
and she heard this episode about the
soul moving on the journey
and if the family they leave behind
cries and moans then all that pain
radiates to the soul who has moved on
the journey
she saw that episode she said that day i
decided
if anyone lives in my family i will not
cry
she saw only three more episodes so
total four days
fifth day her 21 year old son died in an
accident
and she said my first thought
when i got that information was neither
will
i cry neither will i allow anyone in my
family to cry because i do not want to
radiate
any pain to my child and she immediately
connected with the center in her city
florida and she invited the sisters and
she said please do one week meditation
in my house i don't want anyone to cry
and she did it and neither did she cry
neither did she allow anyone else to cry
she said we'll remember my son but with
lot of love and peace
we will always remember him but we will
send only love
blessings and peace no pain
and she did this by just watching three
four days of a program just one
decision that i will not give pain to my
child that's the power every soul has
that's the amount of power we have she
took personal responsibility of the
situation
that how is she going to handle this
crisis now
and she changed her destiny she changed
the destiny of her family
and she changed the destiny of the soul
who has moved on
because she radiated so much power to
that child
today it's been three years she travels
all over the world
and she goes and shares her experiences
with families
and especially those who've lost young
children
and she's helping them to heal
themselves this is how destiny can
change
just take responsibility that whatever
may be the situation
i i am the creator of the response
and then the gyan and the power creates
the rest of the magic
so just continue you said
just continue we need to continue daily
daily just continue the practice daily
and you're going to start seeing the
difference within
one or two months but we need to do it
daily
it's like eating daily having a bath
daily
exercising daily meditation daily
daily for anything to create a result
discipline is most important
whether it's a career decision whether
it's a health decision
it's always discipline and determination
that i will do this daily
we'll create magic thank you
um you speak about i mean i think the
image that's very clear to me
when you speak about god is that
you sit maybe not an empty vessel
a pure positive peaceful soul
but whose intellect is quiet so that god
can use
the intellect and then you speak words
that are
influenced by that many people have the
experience of god being
everywhere could you tell us a little
bit about your relationship with god
god is everywhere god is
inside everybody god is omnipresent
is something we had heard and we have
studied
right from childhood i think we were
taught god is everywhere
but then we need to also contemplate if
god
is everywhere and god is within
everyone then how would everyone be
how would everyone be
if god is within us how would we be
we would be we would be godlike
because god is inside me and god is
inside you and you
and you now with all our
stresses and anxieties and anger and
sorrow and pain
is that god inside me all the crime
that's happening in the world
all the wrong that some souls are doing
is it god inside them who is doing that
what is god inside them sitting and
doing when they are doing all this
what is god doing so when we said god
is inside everyone it was a way
of teaching people to live a good life
and say don't hurt anybody don't do
wrong to anybody
respect everyone treat everyone like god
god is in everybody
but when we start understanding it we
understand that this was more like
a parent teaching like a little kid
don't go out
it's dark something will happen don't
it's like a teaching a child
but god cannot really be inside everyone
if god was in everyone then we would be
perfect
perfect we could not have a single
imperfect thought
but that's not happening we have very
rare perfect feelings and
thoughts so god god's
remembrance is inside everybody a
connection with god is inside every soul
every soul has the same qualities like
god
so that connection the remembrance
the qualities the powers of god are in
everybody
but there is a difference between
remembrance and qualities of god in
everybody
and god in everybody two things are
completely different
it's like some children look very
similar to their parents
you know you find a son or a daughter
looking very similar to their parent
they're looking similar to the parent
but still parent is different from the
child
they could look like the parent they
could talk and walk like the parent
they could behave like the parent they
could have the same talents skills
qualities like the parent like the
parent
but yet parent and child will be
different
so same is with soul and god soul is in
everybody
which means soul is in every body the
soul has the same qualities as god
and the remembrance of god that god
cannot be in everybody
if god was in everybody it would be
paradise
always nothing but perfect relationship
with god
is like a relationship with any soul how
do we start developing
a relationship with god when we used to
pray
we've all prayed when we pray
we recite words
which were taught to us as children
but some of us may have experienced that
when we are praying
our mind is connected to people instead
of god
anyone experience that you're thinking
of someone else while you're praying
ever experienced that we are praying
but the mind is going to work going home
going to children
and 10 minutes and my prayer is over i
was like
it's done when we used to pray in school
it was a prayer every single morning but
while we were praying
we were thinking of the test on that day
the homework i haven't finished what the
teacher is going to say
and my five minutes of pray would be
over so we were reciting the prayer
verbally
but the mind was not always there it
would scatter sometimes it's there
sometimes it will go away
because we had not experienced a
personal relationship
god was more like a concept god
a concept once you start experiencing a
relationship
then we don't even need to take out time
then you're in a relationship
talking and conversing and experiencing
him
always but to begin that relationship
we need to spend time to connecting with
him
so the way i would do it is begin your
morning
with the first good morning there first
thought
good morning nowadays people send a lot
of good mornings on social media
now first thing in the morning good
morning to the world before saying good
morning to the world we say good morning
there so the first thought is a
connection then the study then the
meditation
and now in the day-to-day activities
just before leaving home for the day
sit for a minute in silence connect tell
everything that you have planned for the
day
invite him to be with you throughout the
day tell him
everything that's scheduled for the day
during the day
keep sharing this is what happened this
is what we're going to do
next so very soon god is
with you always you will start feeling
it
that god is with you because it's a very
natural companionship a relationship
where you are sharing everything and the
next
experience that you will have is
like you can get answers from people you
will start getting
answers and touching from god himself
like we have telepathy with people have
we experienced telepathy with people
yes physically they are not there next
to us
and yet we call them up and they call us
up at the same time
it's a telepathy between two souls
we create a thought energy travels there
they create a thought they connect to us
if there can be telepathy between
one soul and another soul why can there
not be telepathy between one soul and
the supreme soul
telepathy means we share
and telepathy means what he shares we
can catch
and that's what is raj yoga meditation a
very
personal relationship not a one-way
conversation
but a two-way conversation where he
speaks
where he gives touchings and we get
answers
so that's a relationship which cannot be
talked about so much but it needs to be
experienced
very much it needs to be experienced so
give yourself a few months for that
experience that's
it's certain but that you will
experience it it's certain
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